Wednesday, 15 June 2011

Resolving Johor's fingerprinting issue

FYI.

SILA lihat ini.

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Seorang rakan yg lama tak contact hantar email semalam, tanya amacam nak resolve isu trafik jam kat Johor sebab orang Temasek kena fingerprint.
Problem besar.
Saya jawab emailnya di bawah ni.
Lepas tu tertinggal lagi satu point, saya tulis email kedua.


Saya harap isu ni akan selesai pantas. Dah lah kamu gaduh politik tak habis-habis, lepas tu isu macam ni tambah imej negatif warga Singapork dan komuniti antarabangsa terhadap negara angkat saya.

Komuniti antarabangsa? Ribuan pelancong high-end, dan top businessmen masuk Singapork daily - nak ke kasino, buat business.
Dan akhbar The Straits Times ni banyak pembaca asing online - akhbar-akhbar luar negara dan orang politik luar yang monitor berita serantau melalui akhbar kami.

Identiti penulis email tak 'yah lah.
emails edited to protect identity.


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johor immi:bila nak resolve?
before answering big question: WHY was the fingerprinting introduced?

- to catch sporean illegal immigrants who come and go using false passports?
- to catch spore militants when they come in?
obviously not.

what msia obviously cannot say aloud:
the system was started to catch indon illegals (who come by boat or even fly in or thru ports), plus myanmar illegals (who come thru thai border).
there are 2mil indons in msia, half illegals.
how many illegal, overstaying sporeans are there in msia u think? maybe 10 - all on the run from spore law, if u ask me to guess.
so why the heck are sporeans harrassed!?!?!

50pct of msia's 24mil annual tourist visits are from spore (i dont have latest figures).
and most of them - my guess would be more than 60pct - come thru causeway and second link.
i got a fren who goes to jb every 2weeks - makan, buy pasar things, stay in hotels, buy pirated dvd.
so why oh why u harrass these people!
like 200,00 people cross border a day ok, donch play play.

SOME of these guys - lots and lots of them - are johoreans and other msians who work in spore. bringing in lots of money for msia economy.
heck sounds like a joke this
- when sporeans wanna make baju for their weddings (chinese and melayus even) they buy from jb, who then send these bajus over.
- when they want their curtains sewed, they go jb also!
- when they wanna order dvd online or by phone fast, jb people send these over.
 - all kinds of businesses thrive lah.
why oh why u harrass these people!

cut short:
to resolve -
1) since sporeans are not the main targets, but indons and myanmarese (tho we cant say that openly!), SUSPEND fingerprinting on Weekends lah for causeway/second link.
 2) or else do like this: u carry it out but senior immi officer is always at hand - the moment u see cars backing up xxxx m into causeway or second link (whether weekend or week day), means problem is building up! suspend right away, until traffic ok again.

cos i tell u - in these days of low-cost flights, i see many many sporeans already fly off to nearby cities on weekends. jakarta, hanoi, bandung, bali, bangkok, manila, hk. and yes kl, penang, ipoh.
if u piss off these drivers, maysia will lose more of these drivers. jb will become a ghost town! wah action sey i talk like this.
but u get the drift.

tolong resolve fast - malu msia's credibility like this.

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SECOND EMAIL

eh, i FORGOT another way to resolve this thing, if immi insists Every tourist must kena!
(remember that japanese, koreans, angmor who come from spore in buses also kena). [these are usually day trippers. they go to malacca and then turn back same day, or one-day later].

when spore was looking for mas selamat last time, Every guy crossing into johor kena fingerprint.
they did it this way at spore side:
- all stay in car as usual while immi chopped the passports. they give us a white slip of paper. on it written a number, say '3', plus a date. NO machines here.
- about 20m in front, where there is more space, there are these fingerprint machines and more officers. all kena come out to fingerprint.
the '3' stands for number of people in car. this way in case mas selamat was using another guy's passport, his prints would be detected at this second checkpoint.

but more importantly cos kena stop in front where there is more space, people don't crowd at immi booths with fumes and lack of space adding to chaos.

11 comments:

Asrul.Rae said...

reme,

cakap pasal indon ni, saya selalu juga jengok forum diorang. paling popular, forum kaskus.us, forum terbesar indonesia.

http://www.kaskus.us/forumdisplay.php?f=21

Then kat situ saya realize yang mereka cukup tak suka ipanggil INDON. Kalau malas sebut panjang, eja INDO pun dah cukup. Asal jangan eja indon.

Pekataan indon tu bawa kotonasi negatif. Sama macam Nigga, dwarf, indian..etc. Maksud indon tu 'In Donation Nation', jadi kalau kita pakai nama tu macam perli mereka. Sampai ada yang acah-acah ajak malaysia perang. Gara gara word Indon tu.

Tahu dah perangai kiasu mat indon ni. Keyboard warrior.

Anonymous said...

brader

we dont do it for nothing even we know the public will say we look stupid.

remember post 9-11 and the security treatment we get at international airports. heck the long check in time, security detector, no sharp items, liquid and so on.

yes - we dont do it for nothing.

btw with the strict and efficient check at all spore exit point, thanks to the Malaysia police for catching Mas Selamat.

Anonymous said...

bagusle sistem baru mula-mula adalah problem.. lepas tu ok le..

Immigratio Department pun kena ikut trend lah beb! Dah banyak improvement depa dah buat, dulu kalau apply paspot kena tunggu dua minggu baru siap, sekarang ni dalam satu hari pun dah siap.

Kalau pakai biometrik mungkin Mas Selamat tak terlepas masuk dulu, dah awal-awal lagi kena tangkap. Dengan adanya biometrik ni, mungkin susah jugak teroris dari Singapura maupun Indonesia nak menyelinap masuk.

remgold said...

Asrul,
akhbar-akhbar di spork dan maysia pernah dapat panggilan drpd embassy indonesia: harap jangan guna headline yg gunakan shortform 'indon' untuk indonesia.
maknanya mereka tak terima dipanggil gitu. saya tulis indon dlm email saya sebab tulis kpd kawan. dlm kerja harian saya tak guna perkataan ini - samalah kita kerap panggil orang bangla, keling, malai-kwai (malay devil = cheena panggil malayos), etc.

Anon 21:49,
saya tak kata kamu tak ada sebab yg baik nak start fingerprinting ni.
negara kamu, kamu nak tutup border tu pun suka hati kamu.

saya cuma tulis tu sebab nak beri jalan keluar cara short-term, dari pandangan peribadi: jika kamu tanya aku, ah ini cara aku buat.
sehingga semua orang dah biasa dgn benda ni, ini cara terbaik yg boleh dilakukan, ikut pandangan saya.
sebab yg kamu nak tangkap tu sebenarnya orang dari negara lain, bukan dari negara yg buat johor collapse jika kamu sekat mereka masuk.

masalahnya orang yg ditangkap tak masuk ikut causeway atau second link, tapi dari pantai yg panjang, termasuk di johor.

"we dont do it for nothing" - cuba jelaskan apasal buat gini?
kan dah dikata oleh hishammuddin dan pegawai lain - nak sekat militant dan cross border smuggling.
atau ada sebab rahsia?

militants dan smuggling datang dari indonesia dan thailand.
bukan tak ada dari spork (lebih lagi party drugs), tapi pada saya kamu salah target kerana menyusahkan ramai sangat orang, tak kena tempat.
kena perbaiki sistem, saya pun tak kata terus hentikan - bukan hak saya pun nak action kata gitu!

tentang mas selamat tu - nanti bila dah kurang sensitif, saya cerita.

maysia yg tangkap tu betul, tapi siapa yg kasi intel kpd polis maysia yg tak tahu kat mana nak cari? dan bagaimana? maaf tak boleh berdetail. terima kasih banyak-banyak abang polis maysia bantu spork tangkap mas selamat.

Anon 22:07,
mas selamat dan ribuan illegals dari indonesia dan myanmar tak masuk ikut causeway atau second link.
mereka tak bawa passport pun. hahaha.

jadi bukan sistem biometrik ni, tapi kat mana nak tangkap orang yg menyeludup ni. kita sama2lah cuba bantu pihak keselamatan - polis, immi etc. saya respek kerja mereka ni - kerja payah, kita (termasuk saya) kerap perlekehkan. marilah kita bantu abang polis dan abang immi.

Ummie said...

On 938 Live news 2 days ago:
Golf Tournament 3x/wk no more in JB, but Batam because of the finger-print jam.
Indian Muslim eateries around town complain of no customers, mostly S'porean.
But the Immigration when asked for feedback said, the jam was not caused by the introduction of the new system because it only happenend @ the Causeway & the 2nd Link.
THE JAM WAS CAUSED BY TOOO MANYYY PEOPLEEE @ ONE TIMEEE!!!

Anonymous said...

Betul ke Johor boleh collapes kalau tadak Singapork? Abis tu Langkawi jauh dr Singapork pun bleh hidup? Labuan jauh dr Singapork pun bleh hidup?
Takutnya Singapork yg xleh hidup kalau tadak johor. Hahaha.... Jangan perlekeh org Johor beb!

remgold said...

Anon 03:12,
Saya tak tahu betul atau tidak boleh collapse. Yg kata gitu ialah chinese and indian business associations in johor. Bukan orang spore. Akhbar saya melaporkan pagi ini dari komplen mereka - 30 hingga 50 peratus pelanggan dari selatan.
utk melaka pula, banyak bas dari spork bawa pelancong jepun, korea, omputeh - utk daytrips atau satu malam. tapi melaka okay sebab banyak lagi bas bawa pelancong luar datang dari kl.
Langkawi, labuan, london, paris dan new york tak collapse sebab yg ramai datang sana bukan cucu kuan yew.

Dan lagi sebab kenapa boleh collapse jb ni - 200,000 people cross the border daily. Maknanya 100,000 manusia ulang alik.
Jika hanya setengah dari spork, yg setengah lagi ialah orang johor dan mamat maysia yg kerja di temasek. gaji mereka double di selatan, jadi jika mereka give up kerana tiap hari jam, problem juga.
mereka bawa income utk maysia, salah ke nak perbaiki pendapatan keluarga?

tapi mungkin juga yg collapse ialah kedai kopi dan shipyard spork kerana banyak gunakan pekerja maysia.
di opis saya, ramai pekerja dari cleaning company budak maysia - india dan sabah (selain apek dan nonya dari china). nanti saya tanya mereka menetap di spork atau sewa rumah di jb. kesian beb sebab 'orang kita' juga dan mereka kerja 12jam sehari, lepas tu gi-balik sangkut (jika mereka tinggal di jb).

bagaimanapun, yg kita harus bincangkan ialah cara nak improve benda ni, bukan cakar muka masing-masing 'economy i kuat, u tak datang pun tak apa' - for both sides.
Kenapa jika buat sesuatu mesti 'look stupid'?
Saya rasa ini temporary, sebab no joke ada yg sangkut empat hingga tujuh jam.
Walhal baik mas selamat atau orang indo/n yg nak ditangkap masuk tak pakai passport. atau mereka masuk naik air asia atau melalui jeti melaka - sehingga ada pegawai tinggi kena tangkap sebab minta duit jika nak terus masuk.

saya jarang ke JB sebab tak ada kereta dan tak kenal orang yg ada kereta dan selalu ke sana, jika tidak nak juga makan minum kat utara tu. tapi utk yg selalu seberang kerana ada business atau rumah di jb, seperti Ummie, masalah besar tu.

Anonymous said...

yang selalu masuk keluar ada special pas macam touch n go tak pun smart tag, yg masalahnya ada yg kiasu taknak belanja sikit untuk pas tu sanggup tunggu tu yg melambatkan proses.

kalau lambat tu biasalah mula-mula nanti orang yang melaluinya dah paham macam mana nak guna lama-lama laju lah proses tu.

ni biasa tejadi apabila dari satu sistem berubah kepada sistem yang lain dan secara perlahan orang yang menggunakannya akan memahaminya.

cuba tengok contoh KLIA bila mula kecoh sikit tapi secara perlahan orang dah paham sistem dan diperbaiki lama-lama oklah.

Anonymous said...

I agree with anon 21.49, it is what it is. If you don't like it, please go somewhere else. We don't do it to inconvenience anyone in particular but if it does, just bear it okay. Everything being done for benefits of evryone namely Maysia citizens security and we do not categorise Singapork different than other citizens. We welcome Singapork to Maysia but if you don't like our rules, go elsewhere you deem fit. We respect your laws and we expect to reciprocate likewise.

remgold said...

Anon 09:28,
hamba sokong 100peratus! the market rules! tak suka boleh belah!
(yg saya email rakan tu kerana ditanya beliau What Would U Have Done).

si bongkok said...

rem.. pada aku whatever alasan diberikan untuk implement cap jri ni, aku tetap sokong pelaksanaannya.

aku sangat tak setuju komuniti bisnes di johor mendictate dasar kerajaan pasal untuk memberi kemudahan kepada rakyat negara lain yang memandang rendah kepada kami sebagai bandar paling tidak selamat..

malah aku sokong kalau dikenakan cukai tambahan kepada rakyat singapura yang membeli belah di johor.. kerana kami membayar cukai untuk mendapat kemudahan dari kerajaan tetapi yang menikmatinya ialah rakyat singapura..

hasilnya kos kehidupan kami tinggi dalam segala segi. para pebisnis pula lebih mementingkan kepada orang singapura dari kami pembeli miskin...

isu fingerprint ni adalah hak kerajaan, waktu amarika tetapkan benda ni semua maknusia buat takda pon bising...